03-11-2007, 11:25 PM
THIS POST NOT FOR FLAME OR RUMOUR.ALL THIS CASE HAPPEND ON MAY 2006.IF YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT 32K TREASURE BOX CASE YOU CAN ASK YOU OWN MGM/GM OR ANY MGM/GM.
This mail written to euRO management at 14.1.2007 .But I already talked about this case with Thyla on Novamber 2006.But she said she is busy about that lhz update on that date .Finally she researched my mail at February 2007.An what happened?
Here is my mail :
Hi euRO management team,especially Thyla (cause we talk with her about this subject,she is waiting this report mail too);
This report mail written for explaining biggest cheat on euRO. Please read this mail patiently. Let me explain. Lets start.
First of all I am an old member of ex Bordo-Bereliler (at the moment called as MS-13) guild. But I don't wanna say who I am. Only you would be sure that I am saying truth when you research good this case. If nobody care this report or close this case without punish all players who did this cheat I will write this mail to all euRO guilds websites.
At the moment there are about 20 godlike mixing item on .Celina.'s account who is ingame wife and girlfriend of .JeusDane (ex Bordo guild and now MS-13 Guild leader). Most of them Payon castles drops. They never dropped this items from castles treasure boxes. They didn't bought this items or nobody given this items to them as a gift. So where the items came?
I think you can remember the case which includes 32.000 Treasure Boxes summoner and opener players on Jawai. May be you need a remining. A few months ago some players stolen a Turkish event GM's account. They summon theirselves to Jawai. Then they summon 32.000 TB to Jawai and started to open TB's. They pick up all items from ground and store items. Here are some examples about what they did with this items which comes from TB's.
- There were about 700 page upgrading log about this items. They tried make equips +10 and broke so many +9 to +10.Sometimes they put out Eluniums to ground about overweight
- They open all Old Card Albums. Sometimes they opened about 100 OCA at the same time. And found a few Ghostring cards then used with armors.
- One of them tried to sell 5 Emblem of Solar God on his shop at the same time.
- They used yggdrasills like using white pot on woes.
- They sold so many stuff like Sun God Helms, Pole Axes etc.
- Etc etc etc.Try to imagine that what you can drop from 32.000 TBs. And what you can do with this items. They used,they brake, they sold, they trade so many things. After each sell or trade they made their money black to white.
After a few months someone denounced them.After a little research they catched by gm team.Firstly about 30 accounts banned that we heared from friends.But something happened and case closed without real punishment.Lets remember who did this cheat and what they are doing at the moment.
- Cordison : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. He get all responsibility of this cheat with Gorgamin and The-Sun They said ;"we did all cheat,others unguilty".He get a permanent ban to his account.He open a new account and build a champion as called .Leprechaun. .Still playing with his champ and playing with his alchemist called as Cordison. .
- Gorgamin : Get a permenant ban.
- The-Sun : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. His wiz account banned too.He get a new account and at the moment he has a professor called as The Sun! .
- .JeusDane : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) master. He said to researcher mgm : "my account was used on this cheat but I didn't know anything about this. So many players knows my user id and password, they did this. I am guiltless." Then he unbanned although his IP address used. Still playing with his LK.
- Aremis : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. He said same as .JeusDane and unbanned although his IP address used. Still playing with his high wizard and he bought a lord knight account some days ago called as a boat .
- .Celina. : Girlfriend of .JeusDane and ingame wife. She said same as .JeusDane and unbanned.
But all this players did this cheat together.They lied to euRO management.
Rosiel is a Turkish MGM as you know who research this case. He write on RoTR.net forums : "We find and punished all cheaters. We wiped all items which dropped from Treasure Boxes and banned all accounts". But he never research this case deeply and he didn't find all accounts which used on this cheat. Only he want to close this case fastly and he did. So cheaters hide some accounts that includes so much items coming from TB's.
They didn't login accounts which they stored items for 1-2 months. Then they started to use this accounts and items which they hide from management. For example they transferred godlike mixing items to .Celina.'s account. Somedays they transfer this items to Aremiss account and get back to .Celina.'s account.They transferred all items to another account on 01.2007.
They have another accounts that includes so many +8,+9,+10 equips and so much items that they made or buy money comes from TB case.
Now I am denouncing them again. I trust you.Please research this case deeply and punish all cheaters. And stop this cheating.
Best Regards!
She saw all items on .Celina.'s account on first time that i denounced on novamber but first she said me "there are no gl mixing items on this account although she saw items on that account.But they were on there.After researching Thyla said me: "We can't do anything cause euRO servers keeps logs for last 180 days.And there is no log anymore about this case.I am sorry"
Here is last talk with Thyla :
Hi eurororo,
then I'll give you our last conversation:
Session Start: Fri Feb 02 20:14:24 2007
[20:14:24] Hi
[20:14:26]
[20:14:34] hi
[20:14:46] yes I am working at it
[20:14:55] but I can't tell you good news
[20:15:03] Ah nice to hear this
[20:15:10] hmm
[20:15:18] why
[20:15:41] too much time has gone by
[20:15:46] no logs anymore
[20:15:56] no chance to prove anything
[20:16:01] swt
[20:16:33] I am honest to you
[20:16:46] the items have no serial numbers
[20:16:52] so no chance to see anything
[20:17:01] But
[20:17:05] I spoke with our technicians today
[20:17:21] its not fair
[20:17:30] yes that may be true
[20:17:40] the whole story was a disaster
[20:17:45] when they make gl
[20:18:34] biggest problem was rosiel dont care this case deeply
[20:18:45] he only wanna close
[20:18:47] he had not the time maybe
[20:18:52] I can't say
[20:18:53] then he did
[20:19:04] we have often much work to do
[20:19:24] you see that I needed a long time to have enough time to
follow your case even
[20:19:28] but this was important i think
[20:19:57] too much items had been involved
[20:20:07] that had been Megabytes of data
[20:20:13] very difficult
[20:20:16] he punished players only what they were said
[20:20:33] and as i wrote in my mail
[20:20:37] I wasn't involved at that time
[20:20:47] I just heard what was done
[20:21:01]
[20:21:05] never
[20:21:20] he only closed case
[20:21:30] ha banned a lot of accounts
[20:21:33] *he
[20:21:45] Yes but not real ones
[20:21:54] i know he banned
[20:21:55] that I can't judge
[20:22:08] but unban others
[20:22:26] like jeus aremis etc
[20:22:52] I only know some facts
[20:22:56] altough they used their own accounts on trade
[20:22:56] no details
[20:23:31] some players said to rosiel
[20:23:47] what jeus cordison aremis said
[20:24:12] He asked them
[20:24:22] They said
[20:24:43] someone used our accounts
[20:25:12] we didnt do anything wrong
[20:25:13] then rosiel said
[20:25:19] ah dont you
[20:25:21] ok
[20:25:43] next time be carefull about your
[20:25:59] Accounts
[20:26:08] then unban
[20:26:16] I can't judge because I don't know
[20:26:24] you can see this
[20:26:46] their accounts were banned too
[20:27:00] and i heared that
[20:27:16] on this server limitation of time is 180 days
[20:27:28] we don't have data bafore this
[20:27:58] items come to celina s account on august
[20:27:58] or before
[20:28:22] may be some weeks ago
[20:29:04] but I can't see the origin
[20:29:07] but but i said this on november
[20:29:17]
[20:30:27] but I have your mail since 14.01.
[20:30:43] so they will get free sleipnir
[20:31:10] and they will use their free eqp s
[20:31:53] that may be
[20:32:21] I am not able to intervene
[20:33:40] :/
Regards
Thyla
--
Thyla - euRO GM Team
European Ragnarok Online
This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged
material intended for the addressee only.
"eurororo" <eurororo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> May i get an answer via mail too.Cause i was on palm and i couldnt
> understand complately the case.
>
> Best regards.
* They changed name again MS-13 to Bordo-Bereliler.
* The Sun! is on army at the moment.Aremis playing with his scholar.
Normally i was waiting for their sleipnir making.But i think they make a plan for explain how to they made sleipnir.They are trying to hold payon castles with their ally at the moment.So they can say we get these items from TB's.Cause most of their gl mixing items payon castle drops.But the point is items was on account about a year ago.And Thyla saw them on novamber too.Their other plan is: Giving all items to a member who thay trust.Than that player will make GL equip on other guild and come back to Bordo.
Bordo-Bereliler never dropped a gl mixing item during their ro life.If you wanna more information you can ask <GordioN> who was the ex-guild master of Bordo about 1,5-2 years.Only their ally get 2 times gl mixing item from TB's.One of this; The_Berserkers guild get one when "FoR ally" times,the other one is Forever Love guild get when they were on "FoR ally".
Lets think normally how can you get 32k tb.32k TB (6 TB for each day) =~ 5334 day =~ 762 week =~ 1524 woe ends with castle.Is this fair for you? And the other alliances who is trying invest for get a gl mixing item.Is this fair for you?
So they will make "free sleipnir" and nobody could stop their cheat.
Can't you believe me? Please ask any MGM/GM about 32k TB case.
Have fun on euRO!
Best regards...
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This mail written to euRO management at 14.1.2007 .But I already talked about this case with Thyla on Novamber 2006.But she said she is busy about that lhz update on that date .Finally she researched my mail at February 2007.An what happened?
Here is my mail :
Hi euRO management team,especially Thyla (cause we talk with her about this subject,she is waiting this report mail too);
This report mail written for explaining biggest cheat on euRO. Please read this mail patiently. Let me explain. Lets start.
First of all I am an old member of ex Bordo-Bereliler (at the moment called as MS-13) guild. But I don't wanna say who I am. Only you would be sure that I am saying truth when you research good this case. If nobody care this report or close this case without punish all players who did this cheat I will write this mail to all euRO guilds websites.
At the moment there are about 20 godlike mixing item on .Celina.'s account who is ingame wife and girlfriend of .JeusDane (ex Bordo guild and now MS-13 Guild leader). Most of them Payon castles drops. They never dropped this items from castles treasure boxes. They didn't bought this items or nobody given this items to them as a gift. So where the items came?
I think you can remember the case which includes 32.000 Treasure Boxes summoner and opener players on Jawai. May be you need a remining. A few months ago some players stolen a Turkish event GM's account. They summon theirselves to Jawai. Then they summon 32.000 TB to Jawai and started to open TB's. They pick up all items from ground and store items. Here are some examples about what they did with this items which comes from TB's.
- There were about 700 page upgrading log about this items. They tried make equips +10 and broke so many +9 to +10.Sometimes they put out Eluniums to ground about overweight
- They open all Old Card Albums. Sometimes they opened about 100 OCA at the same time. And found a few Ghostring cards then used with armors.
- One of them tried to sell 5 Emblem of Solar God on his shop at the same time.
- They used yggdrasills like using white pot on woes.
- They sold so many stuff like Sun God Helms, Pole Axes etc.
- Etc etc etc.Try to imagine that what you can drop from 32.000 TBs. And what you can do with this items. They used,they brake, they sold, they trade so many things. After each sell or trade they made their money black to white.
After a few months someone denounced them.After a little research they catched by gm team.Firstly about 30 accounts banned that we heared from friends.But something happened and case closed without real punishment.Lets remember who did this cheat and what they are doing at the moment.
- Cordison : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. He get all responsibility of this cheat with Gorgamin and The-Sun They said ;"we did all cheat,others unguilty".He get a permanent ban to his account.He open a new account and build a champion as called .Leprechaun. .Still playing with his champ and playing with his alchemist called as Cordison. .
- Gorgamin : Get a permenant ban.
- The-Sun : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. His wiz account banned too.He get a new account and at the moment he has a professor called as The Sun! .
- .JeusDane : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) master. He said to researcher mgm : "my account was used on this cheat but I didn't know anything about this. So many players knows my user id and password, they did this. I am guiltless." Then he unbanned although his IP address used. Still playing with his LK.
- Aremis : Ex Bordo guild (now MS-13) guild co-leader. He said same as .JeusDane and unbanned although his IP address used. Still playing with his high wizard and he bought a lord knight account some days ago called as a boat .
- .Celina. : Girlfriend of .JeusDane and ingame wife. She said same as .JeusDane and unbanned.
But all this players did this cheat together.They lied to euRO management.
Rosiel is a Turkish MGM as you know who research this case. He write on RoTR.net forums : "We find and punished all cheaters. We wiped all items which dropped from Treasure Boxes and banned all accounts". But he never research this case deeply and he didn't find all accounts which used on this cheat. Only he want to close this case fastly and he did. So cheaters hide some accounts that includes so much items coming from TB's.
They didn't login accounts which they stored items for 1-2 months. Then they started to use this accounts and items which they hide from management. For example they transferred godlike mixing items to .Celina.'s account. Somedays they transfer this items to Aremiss account and get back to .Celina.'s account.They transferred all items to another account on 01.2007.
They have another accounts that includes so many +8,+9,+10 equips and so much items that they made or buy money comes from TB case.
Now I am denouncing them again. I trust you.Please research this case deeply and punish all cheaters. And stop this cheating.
Best Regards!
She saw all items on .Celina.'s account on first time that i denounced on novamber but first she said me "there are no gl mixing items on this account although she saw items on that account.But they were on there.After researching Thyla said me: "We can't do anything cause euRO servers keeps logs for last 180 days.And there is no log anymore about this case.I am sorry"
Here is last talk with Thyla :
Hi eurororo,
then I'll give you our last conversation:
Session Start: Fri Feb 02 20:14:24 2007
[20:14:24] Hi
[20:14:26]
[20:14:34] hi
[20:14:46] yes I am working at it
[20:14:55] but I can't tell you good news
[20:15:03] Ah nice to hear this
[20:15:10] hmm
[20:15:18] why
[20:15:41] too much time has gone by
[20:15:46] no logs anymore
[20:15:56] no chance to prove anything
[20:16:01] swt
[20:16:33] I am honest to you
[20:16:46] the items have no serial numbers
[20:16:52] so no chance to see anything
[20:17:01] But
[20:17:05] I spoke with our technicians today
[20:17:21] its not fair
[20:17:30] yes that may be true
[20:17:40] the whole story was a disaster
[20:17:45] when they make gl
[20:18:34] biggest problem was rosiel dont care this case deeply
[20:18:45] he only wanna close
[20:18:47] he had not the time maybe
[20:18:52] I can't say
[20:18:53] then he did
[20:19:04] we have often much work to do
[20:19:24] you see that I needed a long time to have enough time to
follow your case even
[20:19:28] but this was important i think
[20:19:57] too much items had been involved
[20:20:07] that had been Megabytes of data
[20:20:13] very difficult
[20:20:16] he punished players only what they were said
[20:20:33] and as i wrote in my mail
[20:20:37] I wasn't involved at that time
[20:20:47] I just heard what was done
[20:21:01]
[20:21:05] never
[20:21:20] he only closed case
[20:21:30] ha banned a lot of accounts
[20:21:33] *he
[20:21:45] Yes but not real ones
[20:21:54] i know he banned
[20:21:55] that I can't judge
[20:22:08] but unban others
[20:22:26] like jeus aremis etc
[20:22:52] I only know some facts
[20:22:56] altough they used their own accounts on trade
[20:22:56] no details
[20:23:31] some players said to rosiel
[20:23:47] what jeus cordison aremis said
[20:24:12] He asked them
[20:24:22] They said
[20:24:43] someone used our accounts
[20:25:12] we didnt do anything wrong
[20:25:13] then rosiel said
[20:25:19] ah dont you
[20:25:21] ok
[20:25:43] next time be carefull about your
[20:25:59] Accounts
[20:26:08] then unban
[20:26:16] I can't judge because I don't know
[20:26:24] you can see this
[20:26:46] their accounts were banned too
[20:27:00] and i heared that
[20:27:16] on this server limitation of time is 180 days
[20:27:28] we don't have data bafore this
[20:27:58] items come to celina s account on august
[20:27:58] or before
[20:28:22] may be some weeks ago
[20:29:04] but I can't see the origin
[20:29:07] but but i said this on november
[20:29:17]
[20:30:27] but I have your mail since 14.01.
[20:30:43] so they will get free sleipnir
[20:31:10] and they will use their free eqp s
[20:31:53] that may be
[20:32:21] I am not able to intervene
[20:33:40] :/
Regards
Thyla
--
Thyla - euRO GM Team
European Ragnarok Online
This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged
material intended for the addressee only.
"eurororo" <eurororo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> May i get an answer via mail too.Cause i was on palm and i couldnt
> understand complately the case.
>
> Best regards.
* They changed name again MS-13 to Bordo-Bereliler.
* The Sun! is on army at the moment.Aremis playing with his scholar.
Normally i was waiting for their sleipnir making.But i think they make a plan for explain how to they made sleipnir.They are trying to hold payon castles with their ally at the moment.So they can say we get these items from TB's.Cause most of their gl mixing items payon castle drops.But the point is items was on account about a year ago.And Thyla saw them on novamber too.Their other plan is: Giving all items to a member who thay trust.Than that player will make GL equip on other guild and come back to Bordo.
Bordo-Bereliler never dropped a gl mixing item during their ro life.If you wanna more information you can ask <GordioN> who was the ex-guild master of Bordo about 1,5-2 years.Only their ally get 2 times gl mixing item from TB's.One of this; The_Berserkers guild get one when "FoR ally" times,the other one is Forever Love guild get when they were on "FoR ally".
Lets think normally how can you get 32k tb.32k TB (6 TB for each day) =~ 5334 day =~ 762 week =~ 1524 woe ends with castle.Is this fair for you? And the other alliances who is trying invest for get a gl mixing item.Is this fair for you?
So they will make "free sleipnir" and nobody could stop their cheat.
Can't you believe me? Please ask any MGM/GM about 32k TB case.
Have fun on euRO!
Best regards...
